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Supporters of health care reform threatened by violence
#21
WT Reader Wrote:
ClassicalLib17 Wrote:I guess you are not interested in reading your healthcare bill. Apparently, the only people that have actually read this bill are the Republicans, and conservative think-tanks. Ignorance is bliss. I will thank you for stirring up a complacent conservative majority in this still conservative majority nation. Come on, November.

President Obama said in a speech in Iowa City today that he welcomes November. He says if anyone wants to put the health insurance industry back in the seat again to deny people health care while increasing premiums, "bring them on."

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001190-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... ontentBody</a><!-- m -->

As more Americans learn about all the true reforms in this health care bill, the more they support it. This is what polling is showing, just today.

Again, it is all about "YES WE CAN" rather than "HELL NO YOU CAN'T !!"

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(this vid has become so popular, it is now going totally viral)

I also welcome November .. to vote out those House and Senate members who were not responsive to their constituents' needs for real health care reform, who were rather only loyal to the health insurance industry's greedy status quo.

It is is high time to elect persons to Congress who are sensitive to the needs of all the people, to "We, the People."

YES WE CAN and WE WILL.

--- WT Reader

WT,in the interest of fairness, shouldn't you admit that you were the Waukegan Democratic Party Chairman, at one point in time?
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#22
I guess everyone can find an article that supports their argument...

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleM...ents=true/

If you can't stand the heat, manufacture a hate-crime epidemic.

After years of covering racial hoaxes on college campuses and victim sob stories in the public arena, I've encountered countless opportunists who live by that demented mindset. At best, the fakers are desperately seeking 15 minutes of infamy. At worst, their aim is the criminalization of political dissent.

Upon decimating the deliberative process to hand President Obama a health care "reform" victory, unpopular Beltway Democrats and their media water-carriers now claim there's a Tea Party epidemic of racism, harassment and violence against them.

On Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued a tepid, obligatory statement against smearing all conservatives as national security threats. But her lieutenants had already emptied their tar buckets. Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Chris Van Hollen accused Republican leaders of "stoking the flames." Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn accused the GOP of "aiding and abetting" what he called "terrorism."

Yet, the claims that Tea Party activists shouted "nigger" at black House Democrats remain uncorroborated. The coffin reportedly left outside Missouri Democratic Rep. Russ Carnahan's home was used in a prayer vigil by pro-life activists in St. Louis protesting the phony Demcare abortion-funding ban in Obama's deal-cutting executive order. Videotape of a supposed intentional spitting incident targeting Missouri Democratic Rep. Emanuel Cleaver at the Capitol shows no such thing. Cleaver himself backed off the claim a few days later. He described his heckler to The Washington Post in more passive terms as "the man who allowed his saliva to hit my face." Slovenliness equals terrorism!

The FBI is now investigating the most serious allegation -- that Tea Party activists in Virginia are somehow responsible for a cut gas line at the home of Democratic Rep. Tom Perriello's brother. But instead of waiting for the outcome of that probe, liberal pundits have enshrined the claim as conclusive evidence of the Tea Party reign of terror.

Need more reasons to treat the latest Democratic hysteria with a grain of salt the size of their gargantuan health care bill? Remember:

-- In November 2009, Kentucky census worker Bill Sparkman was found dead in a secluded rural cemetery with the word "Fed" scrawled on his chest and a rope around his neck. The Atlantic Monthly, Huffington Post and liberal media hosts stampeded over themselves to blame Fox News, conservative blogs, Republicans and right-wing radio. Federal, state and local authorities discovered that Sparkman had killed himself and deliberately concocted a hate-crime hoax as part of an insurance scam to benefit his surviving son.

-- In mid-October 2008, news outlets from Scranton, Pa., to ABC News to the Associated Press and MSNBC reported that someone at a Sarah Palin rally shouted "kill him" when Obama's name was mentioned. In fact, the Secret Service (which was at the event in full force) couldn't find a single person to corroborate the story -- other than the local reporter for the Scranton Times-Tribune who made an international incident out of the claim. Agent Bill Slavoski "said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers, and not one heard the comment," the paper reported in a red-faced follow-up. Maybe the shouter is hiding with Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman's real killer.

-- In late October 2008, a gaggle of liberal blogs spread the rumor that a Republican supporter of vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin's had shouted that Obama was "a nigger" during a campaign rally in Iowa. Video and firsthand accounts showed that the protester did not shout "he's a nigger," but "he's a redistributor." A lefty activist at the "progressive" Daily Kos blog confirmed the truth -- but to this day, the crisis-manufacturing smear stands uncorrected and unretracted across the Internet.

-- In September 2009, supporters of Colorado Democratic Rep. John Salazar falsely accused a town hall protester of hurling a death threat at the congressman. Liberal blogs again disseminated the angry Tea Party mob narrative. A week later, the local press quietly reported that Grand Junction police had investigated the incident -- and determined the claim was "unfounded." A police spokeswoman revealed that "(p)eople who witnessed the interaction between the man who made the complaint and the suspect confirmed they never heard any direct threats made regarding Congressman Salazar." Witnesses included a Grand Junction cop "in close proximity when the interaction took place."

-- In late August 2009, as lawmakers faced citizen revolts at health care town halls nationwide, the Colorado Democratic Party decried a vandalism attack at its Denver headquarters. A hammer-wielding thug smashed 11 windows and caused $11,000 in property damage. The perpetrator, Maurice Schwenkler, turned out to be a far-left nutball/transgender activist/single-payer anarchist who had worked for an SEIU-tied 527 group and canvassed for a Democratic candidate. Nevertheless, Colorado Democratic Party Chair Pat Waak continued to blame "people opposed to health care" for the attack.

Then, as now, being a Democratic Party official means never having to say you're sorry for smearing conservative dissent.
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#23
While some buy these "conspiracy theories"... this particular theory being "the manufacturing of a hate-crime epidemic" by the so-called "left", the majority of Americans do not so subscribe.

And these numerous incidents reported of violence against Members of Congress who have mostly voted for Health Care Reform are not "made up", they are a reality.

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Rather than try to maginalize and dismiss such threats, our leaders on both sides of the aisle need to condemn such totally un-American tactics. To date,
the Republican side of the aisle appears mostly to be playing the "blame game"... asserting that advocates of health care reform are making too much of
such appalling acts of violence rather than adamantly condemning such acts.

--- WT Reader
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#24
Now that the leftists have publicly and legislatively affirmed their aversion to freedom and individual liberty, I suppose the day will come when they pronounce the state of New Hampshire's official motto, Live free or die, to be a state-sponsored death threat . What a sad state of affairs we have allowed to be foisted upon us.
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#25
Hey Classic--since you're such a privileged person, why don't you post the Health Care Bill here so that we'll all be as knowledgeable as you. (You do have a personal copy, don't you? :roll:
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#26
ClassicalLib17 Wrote:Now that the leftists have publicly and legislatively affirmed their aversion to freedom and individual liberty, I suppose the day will come when they pronounce the state of New Hampshire's official motto, Live free or die, to be a state-sponsored death threat . What a sad state of affairs we have allowed to be foisted upon us.

Hey ClassicalLib...

I don't recall posting anything here about "leftists" and anyone disliking the principle of "freedom and individual liberty." And who has stated anything here
about New Hamshire's offical motto?

Topic is about supporters of health care reform facing very real threats of numerous instances of violence, and toning town the inflammatory rhetoric.

As to the phrase "Live free or die" was adopted by New Hampshire in 1945 based upon a quote from American Revolutionary War General John Stark on July 31, 1809 from his fighting with the Green Mountain Boys at the Batttle of Bennington on August 16, 1777 in Walloomsac, New York against the British. See following source links:

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So the phrase "live free or die" is born from the American Revoluationary War against the British, which last I heard, the American bluecoats won. So how does this phrase apply now?? Another fight against the British? Or against some other entity? If against another entity, what entity?

-- WT Reader
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