Waukegan Talk - Whispers

Why No TOWN Achives

Sat, 18 May 2013 14:28:22 -0700

Wondering why the TOWN site didn't remain available to those who wanted to see the history, discussion. One would think Newt, the owner would leave it up. My Waukegan info gap has about 20 years so please someone fill me in. What other sites would be good to look at for newer advocacy discussions/info besides Main Street?
Thx.

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

[i]What does this mean? Can some one sum it up and explain?[/i]
The summation is at the end after the giant list of names

AMERICAN SAFETY CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY v. CITY OF WAUKEGAN
AMERICAN SAFETY CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY, Plaintiff,
v.
CITY OF WAUKEGAN, Defendant.
CITY OF WAUKEGAN, Counter-Plaintiff,
v.
AMERICAN SAFETY CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY, INTERSTATE INDEMNITY COMPANY, CERTAIN UNDERWRITERS AT LLOYDS OF LONDON, NORTHFIELD INSURANCE COMPANIES, WESTPORT INSURANCE CORPORATION, EVANSTON INSURANCE COMPANY, S. ALEJANDRO DOMINGUEZ, AND PAUL HENDLEY, Counter-Defendants.
Case No. 07 C 1990.
United States District Court, N.D. Illinois, Eastern Division.

March 19, 2012.

American Safety Casualty Insurance Company, Plaintiff, represented by Daile V. McCann, Asperger Associates LLC, Jeffrey J. Asperger, Asperger Associates, LLC & John R Bowley, Asperger Associates LLC.
Scottsdale Insurance Company, Plaintiff, represented by Kurt M. Zitzer, Meagher & Geer, P.L.L.P., Louis Anthony Varchetto, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C., Ray Hunter Rittenhouse, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C. & Shana Anne O'Grady, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C..
City of Waukegan, Illinois, Defendant, represented by Paulette A. Petretti, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd, Alicia Nichole Garcia, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Chtd., Anthony G. Scariano, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Daniel Playfair Field, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca, Darcee Corinne Williams, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca & Kimberly Payne, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd.
Westport Insurance Corporation, Defendant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C. & Kevin J. Kuhn, Vedder Price P.C..
Westport Insurance Corporation, Third Party Defendant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C., Kevin J. Kuhn, Vedder Price P.C. & Laurel A. Dearborn, Vedder Price P.C..
Scottsdale Insurance Company, Counter Defendant, represented by Ray Hunter Rittenhouse, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C..
Interstate Indemnity Company, Counter Defendant, represented by Mark Robert Filip, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Carter Bryan Stewart, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Dana A Rice, Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP, Gabor Balassa, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Jennifer Kristen Gust, Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP, Joshua G. Vincent, Hinshaw & Culbertson, Kent J. Cummings, Hinshaw & Culbertson & Robert John Gibbons, Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP.
LLoyds of London, Counter Defendant, represented by Robert Paul Arnold, Walker Wilcox Matousek LLP.
Northfield Insurance Company, Counter Defendant, represented by Michael John Duffy, Tressler LLP, Ashley L. Conaghan, Tressler LLP & Jeffrey Mark Alperin, Tressler LLP.
S Alejandro Dominguez, Counter Defendant, represented by Jonathan I. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Arthur R. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Bradley Stephen Block, Law Offices of Bradley Block & Michael I Kanovitz, Loevy & Loevy.
Westport Insurance Corporation, Counter Defendant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C..
Service List,, represented by Kurt M. Zitzer, Meagher & Geer, P.L.L.P., Louis Anthony Varchetto, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C., Ray Hunter Rittenhouse, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C. & Shana Anne O'Grady, Mulherin, Rehfeldt & Varchetto, P.C..
City of Waukegan, Illinois, Counter Claimant, represented by Paulette A. Petretti, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd, Alicia Nichole Garcia, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Chtd., Anthony G. Scariano, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Daniel Playfair Field, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca, Darcee Corinne Williams, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca & Kimberly Payne, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd.
American Safety Casualty Insurance Company, Counter Defendant, represented by Daile V. McCann, Asperger Associates LLC, Jeffrey J. Asperger, Asperger Associates, LLC & John R Bowley, Asperger Associates LLC.
Interstate Indemnity Company, Cross Claimant, represented by Mark Robert Filip, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Carter Bryan Stewart, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Gabor Balassa, Kirkland & Ellis LLP & Jennifer Kristen Gust, Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP.
S Alejandro Dominguez, Cross Defendant, represented by Jonathan I. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Arthur R. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Bradley Stephen Block, Law Offices of Bradley Block & Michael I Kanovitz, Loevy & Loevy.
Interstate Indemnity Company, Counter Claimant, represented by Mark Robert Filip, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Carter Bryan Stewart, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Gabor Balassa, Kirkland & Ellis LLP & Jennifer Kristen Gust, Hinshaw & Culbertson LLP.
City of Waukegan, Illinois, Counter Defendant, represented by Paulette A. Petretti, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd, Anthony G. Scariano, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Daniel Playfair Field, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca & Darcee Corinne Williams, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca.
Westport Insurance Corporation, Counter Claimant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C..
City of Waukegan, Illinois, Counter Defendant, represented by Paulette A. Petretti, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd, Anthony G. Scariano, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Daniel Playfair Field, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca & Darcee Corinne Williams, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca.
Westport Insurance Corporation, Counter Claimant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C. & Kevin J. Kuhn, Vedder Price P.C..
City of Waukegan, Illinois, Counter Defendant, represented by Paulette A. Petretti, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca Chtd, Alicia Nichole Garcia, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Chtd., Anthony G. Scariano, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca, Daniel Playfair Field, Scariano, Himes & Petrarca & Darcee Corinne Williams, Scariano, Himes and Petrarca.
Westport Insurance Corporation, Cross Claimant, represented by Bruce A. Radke, Vedder Price P.C. & Kevin J. Kuhn, Vedder Price P.C..
S Alejandro Dominguez, Cross Defendant, represented by Jonathan I. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Arthur R. Loevy, Loevy & Loevy, Bradley Stephen Block, Law Offices of Bradley Block & Michael I Kanovitz, Loevy & Loevy.

MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER
VIRGINIA M. KENDALL, District Judge.
After Alejandro Dominguez won a judgment of over $9 million against the City of Waukegan ("the City" or "Waukegan") for violations of his civil rights, Waukegan sued its various insurers, asserting that they should have defended and/or indemnified the City in Dominguez's case. The Court will not review the tortured procedural history of this case in great detail; for present purposes it is sufficient to note that the Court previously found that two of the insurers, American Safety Casualty Insurance Company ("American Safety") and Interstate Indemnity Company ("Interstate") needed to indemnify the City in connection with the $11 million the City paid to satisfy its judgment. After the Court entered a very detailed final judgment order, the Court referred the various parties' bills of costs to the magistrate judge. The magistrate issued a careful and lengthy opinion denying the City's request for the over $3 million in interest and fees it incurred to issue a municipal bond to cover the Dominguez judgment, among other rulings.
The City has objected to only that ruling, asserting that it is entitled to the bond costs based on the policies issued by American Safety and Interstate and various procedural rules and statutes. None of the City's objections have merit, and the City's objections fundamentally misunderstand that its bond financing costs are not costs incurred in connection with prosecuting this suit to be recovered during the bill of costs process. Rather, the bond costsâ if the City is in fact entitled to themâare properly considered to be damages the City incurredas the result of the insurers' decision not to indemnify the City. Because the bond costs are damages, the City should have sought them at summary judgment with proper evidence. The City's objections are overruled and the Court adopts the holdings of the magistrate's report and recommendation as noted below.
DISCUSSION
All told, the City paid $11,397,195.39 to satisfy the Dominguez verdict; it pulled together those funds by issuing a municipal bond. The City paid $3,130,168.42 in interest and other costs in order to issue the municipal bond to satisfy the judgment, and now wants to recover that amount as "costs." In its objections, Waukegan asserts that it has not waived its right to seek bond financing costs, and that the bond costs should be considered awarded to the City per: (1) American Safety's and Interstate's policies; (2) Â§ 155 of the Illinois Insurance Code; (3) Rule 54(d) and Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 39(e); (4) Local Rule 54.1(c); or (5) the Illinois Interest Act (815 ILCS 205/2). The Court addresses each of the City's contentions in turn.
A. City's Bond Financing Costs Are Damages, not Costs

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translated from eluniversaledomex- tontico Mex. & Waukegan

Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:41:40 -0700

August 4, 2011
9:35
For young people in the municipality of Tonatico meet or approaching 16 years of age represents the time, almost forced, to leave the United States despite having to study or do not have the economic need to migrate.

In the northern neighbor living about 1 million 200 000 State of Mexico especially in cities in California, Indiana, Arizona and Illinois to name the most common.

In fact, the entity is, according to the National Institute of Statistics and Geography (INEGI), the fourth of the country that expels more Mexicans to the United States.

Among those U.S. states natives of the state of Mexico have begun, in recent years to form communities where they are grouped close by their home town.

The purpose of these migrants, said in an interview with El Universal Edomex, Fernanda GarcÃa Villalobos, subcoordionadora International Liaison Edomex's government is to help each other with any problem, be welcomed whenever they arrive more members to the community, or simply get together to throw parties and so do not lose hold of their communities State of Mexico.

Perhaps the best known case is the city of Waukegan, in the United States, which is known popularly as American as the seat of the municipality of Tonatico.

However, they are not the only state of Mexico, say, have been consolidated in the U.S. cities almost making them their own.

This also highlights Acambay migrants, Ixtapan de la Sal, Ecatepec, San Felipe del Progreso, Tenancingo Atlacomulco Jilotepec, Toluca CuautitlÃ¡n Izcalli and Texcoco.

According to the record with the International Liaison Office of the State Government of Mexico in the American Union State of Mexico's 14 communities are already grouped in as many U.S. localities.

These are recorded as "clubs" of migrants in the U.S.. First is the Social Club Tonatico, settled in Waukegan, Illinois; Rocks of God, originating Acambay and residents in Alabama, Club proudly Mexiquense originating in Ixtapan de la Sal and living in California.

They are also registered Mexiquense Federation, which belongs to another group of natives of Ixtapan de la Sal, settled in California, the organization Earth and Sun, whose members are Tonatico and reside in Ocean Cide, California; Club New Era San Diego State of Mexico Alliance, composed of Ecatepec residents living in Chula Vista, California.

There is also the Confederation of Migrants Mexiquense Confiamex, which brings together the majority of San Felipe del Progreso living in Morgan Hill, California Association of San Agustin Migrant Mextepec, composed of residents living in Mextepec Roy Hill, California.

In Newcastle, Delaware, is Tenancinguenses Club, consisting of natives of Tenancingo. Indiana is the Indy Edomex association that concentrates migrants from Toluca. Migrants in Arizona is the United State of Mexico, where they are bound together those from CuautitlÃ¡n.

While there the group Maryland Seeing is Believing, where the community Texcoco. Then in California is also the Association of Migrant Entrepreneurs Atlacomulco and otherwise Canalejas Union, the last inhabitants of Jilotepec.

Fernanda GarcÃa Villalobos said that after the U.S. economic crisis in 2009 many State of Mexico began to migrate to other areas, one Nevada.

So says the International Liaison Office of the State of Mexico government is increasingly going to the states to know how they are grouping the State of Mexico.

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

[quote="Danno"]I ran across a couple of posts that are critical of the Artspace in Brainerd Mn.
Should we be concerned?

http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/ ... eview/list[/quote]

Yes, we all should be concerned...thus far all the great downtown projects have been flops. The Genesee theatre has not been a catalyst for the revival of downtown, the new building across from the Genesee has not attracted any tenants and soon to be foreclosed, the old Wendy's was remodeled for a new restaurant theat never materialzed, the retail space in the new parking garage is still empty, the big condo project failed to gain enough purchasers to get over a threshold and be built, and lakeview Tower is in receivership with only a few owners.

Given the lack of success of any project downtown we should be concerned that the Karcher/Artspace project will turn out to be a section 8 success story , just like Julian Towers. The organization that is spearheading the project locally is the Waukegan Arts Council whose Board of Directors is filled with people from WDA/Mainstreet, which despite their self promotion, is a failure at acheiving any success.

I am concerned, very concerned, and so should all citizens who love this city.

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

The "Fukushima Fifty"
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/23/2011 16:48 -0400

Japan Meltdown Mutual Assured Destruction

Whatever one thinks about the near-criminal strategy taking place behind the scenes as to how Japan is handling the bailout, one thing is certain: the 50 Tepco workers who are currently laboring at Fukushima, doing all they can to restore the plant back to life, even at the cost of their own lives, are doing a tremendous service to their fellow citizens (futile or otherwise), and deserve to be called heroes. The Mail has compiled what little information is available about these impromptu martyrs, of whom five are believed to have already died and 15 are injured while others have said they know the radiation will kill them, in a piece that everyone should read, especially those who are wondering just who it is that is doing everything in their power to offset Hitachi's criminal conduct([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/23/article-1369216-0B4A7D3F00000578-30_634x437.jpg[/url]) in the construction of the power plant as disclosed earlier. "The darkness is broken only by the flashing torchlight of the heroes who stayed behind. These first images of inside the stricken Fukushima Dai-Ichi power plant reveal the terrifying conditions under which the brave men work to save their nation from full nuclear meltdown. The Fukushima Fifty - an anonymous band of lower and mid-level managers - have battled around the clock to cool overheating reactors and spent fuel rods since the disaster on March 11."
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More from the Mail:
Despite sweltering heat from the damaged reactors, they must work in protective bodysuits to protect their skin from the poisonous radioactive particles that fill the air around them.

But as more radiation seeps into the atmosphere minute by minute, they know this job will be their last.

Five are believed to have already died and 15 are injured while others have said they know the radiation will kill them.

The original 50 brave souls were later joined by 150 colleagues and rotated in teams to limit their exposure to the radiation spewing from over-heating spent fuel rods after a series of explosions at the site. They were today joined by scores more workers.

Japan has rallied behind the workers with relatives telling of heart-breaking messages sent at the height of the crisis.

A woman said her husband continued to work while fully aware he was being bombarded with radiation. In a heartbreaking email, he told his wife: 'Please continue to live well, I cannot be home for a while.'

One girl tweeted in a message translated by ABC: 'My dad went to the nuclear plant, I've never seen my mother cry so hard. People at the plant are struggling, sacrificing themselves to protect you. Please dad come back alive.'

But it is becoming even more pressing that the Fukushima succeed after it was revealed today that Tokyo's tap water has been contaminated by unusual levels of radiation.
While only praise can be showered on these 50 or so volunteers for the true greater good, the biggest punishment possible should be doled out for those who knowingly let this catastrophe occur, if indeed corners were cut in the design of the NPP, and also for those who continue to lie to the population in an attempt to prevent a panic (yes, we have all heard the Mutual Assured Destruction lies of a government that does "what is best for everyone") while simply allowing an ever greater number of people to succumb to radiation poisoning or worse.

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

I don't read newspapers much anymore because they have become the printed version of network 'news'. When they all eventually lose their jobs because they obfuscate the truth or simply ignore it, and soon realize their is no private sector market for their 'talent', maybe then they will have their "Oh My God What Have I Become" moment.

WHEN GOVERNMENTS ATTACK!
Steyn on Culture
Tuesday, 22 March 2011
HAPPY WARRIOR
from National Review

It isnât easy being a public-sector-union leader these days. âThis is beyond insane,â said Steve Smith, president of the Providence Teachersâ Union in Rhode Island, reacting to the cityâs latest outrageous provocation. âLetâs create the most chaos and the highest level of anxiety in a district where teachers are already under unbelievable stress. Now I know how the United States State Department felt on December 7, 1941.â

Critics took President Smithâs remark as the usual self-aggrandizing comparison of timeserving desk-jockeys to men of action in the thick of it. Except, of course, that Mr. Smith wasnât comparing himself to anyone in the general vicinity of Hawaii but to a bunch of similarly desk-bound bureaucrats thousands of miles away in Washington. What does he mean? That the Japanese bombs created the chaos and the State Department had to clear it up? Or is it some sort of Pearl Harbor truther allusion? Like brave Rhode Island educators, certain State Department officials knew exactly what was coming but nobody would listen to them?

But Iâm getting ahead of myself. Reporting for the Providence Journal, Linda Borg, mindful of the fact that most of her readers have been educated by members of Mr. Smithâs union, felt obliged to add a more basic clarification: âThat was the day the Japanese government bombed Pearl Harbor.â

December 7, 1941: a day that shall live in infamy, but not in Providence.

By the way, thatâs why Americaâs monodailies are dying. Maybe theyâd die anyway, but wouldnât it be more fun and more dignified to go down in flames like a kamikaze pilot or Charlie Sheen than by self-anesthetizing your prose into utter unreadability? As Capt. Jean-Luc Picard of the starship Enterprise remarked apropos Ms. Borgâs namesakes, resistance is futile. You can try to read on, but the vast J-school-credentialed army of lethal parenthetics will crush you âneath their feet: December 7, 1941, is the day the Japanese government bombed Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor is a U.S. naval base in the Pacific. The Pacific is a large body of water. Water is what your eyes are beginning to do . . .

But wait: Linda Borgâs explanation raises questions of its own: âThe Japanese governmentâ bombed Pearl Harbor? Was the Second World War an epic conflict of bureaucrats, with Tokyo civil servants in imperial morning dress bearing down on beleaguered State Department officials? Or was the Providence Journal self-correcting? Perhaps Ms. Borg originally wrote that âJapanâ or âthe Japaneseâ bombed Pearl Harbor, and a sharp-eyed editor amended it to clarify that only a few employees of âthe Japanese governmentâ participated in the bombing. Or perhaps political correctness is now so ingrained that a Providence reporter reflexively writes like that anyway. As Whoopi Goldberg put it, in response to Bill OâReillyâs careless slur that the Japanese had attacked us at Pearl Harbor: âSome Japanese attacked us.â Doubtless atypical Japanese, from whose unrepresentative ranks no general conclusions can be drawn.

The Journalâs formulation embodies one of the great delusions of our age â that there are bad governments but no bad peoples. âNot all Germans were Nazisâ â but enough were and enough of the rest strung along that the qualification is irrelevant. Not all Afghans are Taliban â but the real problem in that wretched land is not âthe Afghan governmentâ but the Afghan people. A dozen pages of a Flashman yarn has a sounder grasp of the Afghan psyche than nine years of multilateral ânation-building.â Which is why weâre going round and round in circles in an almighty Groundhogistan where a man gets sentenced to death for converting to Christianity under a court system created, funded, and protected by us.

In the Middle East, likewise: There are bad governments but no bad peoples. One hopes that in his involuntary retirement the unlovely Mubarak, who sold himself to successive U.S. administrations as a restraint on the darker impulses of his citizenry, retains enough of a sense of humor to appreciate posterityâs little jest. Even as one of their own (Lara Logan of CBS) was sexually assaulted by a gang of 200 in Tahrir Square in the very hour of the tyrantâs fall, the Western media assured us that this was âthe Facebook revolution.â Ninety-one percent of Egyptian women have undergone female genital mutilation. Not a lot of that on Facebook.

Under the veneer of âstability,â the Arab worldâs bad governments and their peoples diverged. The U.N. declared the PLO âthe sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people,â but the Palestinian people begged to differ: In the end, Mahmoud Abbas doesnât represent anything other than his Swiss bank account. Hamas, on the other hand, represents something all too real. A secular kleptocrat ruling over a re-Islamized populace was never a good long-term bet: Even bad governments canât get too out of sync with their peoples. A similar realignment is now under way elsewhere. Mubarak, in the old CIA formulation, may have been a sonofabitch but he was our sonofabitch. In Tunis, Ben Ali was Franceâs sonofabitch. The Bahraini monarchy was Britainâs sonofabitch. As one reader wrote to me, the successor regimes are more likely to be the Muslim Brotherhoodâs SOBs and Iranâs SOBs. Revolutions are not always democratic but they are, broadly, demographic.

In Japan, a confident victor transformed a deeply ingrained national culture: The Japanese people beat their swords into karaoke machines â to the point where, even in a mild aside, the Providence Journal is embarrassed to suggest we ever had any quarrel with them. Thatâs the luxury of victory. Itâs a bigger gamble when you havenât won yet.

from National Review

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

What, no comments from the Link supporters regarding the last post?

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:20:23 -0700

[quote="ClassicalLib17"]No, Danno, Jefferson didn't know because you weren't there to tell him how to think. Imagine what America would be like today if you, Jacques, and Peter had been the ones who wrote our governing document? Praise the lord for individuality, and common sense.[/quote]
If Jacques, Peter and I had created the "governing document" 240 some years ago it most likely would be the same as it is now. This is because we are at the forefront of creating a better way for humans to live just as the founding fathers were in their time.

I think what you fail to understand is that there is an evolution process involved. I don't fault the founding fathers for not doing a better job. They were a product of their times and a product of their environment just like those before and after them are. Hench their view that slaves were not people endowed with rights but were merely property. To expect them to have had the ability to create a better form of government than they did would be like expecting a caveman to make a Zippo lighter before the invention of the flint or fire drill. The same way that the flint or fire drill were part of a chain of predeceeding inventions which led up to the eventual invention of the Zippo lighter so too will the ideas and form of government that the founding fathers gave us lead to something better someday. Humans are emergent beings. We build on the accomplishments of the past. There is always advancement. When you start to view some form of government, or any technological advancement for that matter, as a "be all and end all", such as you have expressed here many times, is when you are disconnected with the reality of how we humans live and operate here on Planet Earth.

Do you understand this concept?