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			<description><![CDATA[Would it be possible after a long time out/Lock to try the political thread again? Perhaps the old offenders have moved on and you/we could give the newer bees a chance:-)? Anything political was supposed to stay in political so if I want to ask a question or give an opinion that my be interpreted as political I don't want to be breaking the rules.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[This isn't about grass cutting or vegetables being delivered.  This is about someone being willing to put worth the tremendous effort that the job demands.<br />
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During the blizzard, Ald. TenPas was out in the neighborhood checking on people.<br />
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If Mrs. Link was concerned about the 6th ward she could have done the same.<br />
Did she?  I don't believe so.  I was outside for 7 hours straight and I never saw her.<br />
Has she checked on the business owners?  I spoke with 2 of them today, neither have ever met her.<br />
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Mrs. Link has not visited me, she has not put a flyer in my door, she has not called my cell.  She does not appear concerned about getting my vote.  Perhaps she knows that I would ask real questions, hard questions.<br />
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What did the WBA accomplish?  I want a concrete answer, not "It grew into the Chamber of Commerce".<br />
What are her plans for the North Ave corridor?  What has the C of C done for these businesses so far?<br />
How will she handle her multiple commitments?  What commitments will take priority?<br />
Who comes first?<br />
Why is our neighborhood littered with ugly AT&amp;T boxes?  Do the people of Lake Forest deserve better than us?<br />
How much time does she plan to spend out of this area?  I am certain it is more than the,<br />
 "2 weeks vacation", she has stated.  <br />
How does she plan to work with Mayor Sabonjian?  When she has spent 2 years calling him vicious names.<br />
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When she is ready to provide solid answers, I am willing to listen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This isn't about grass cutting or vegetables being delivered.  This is about someone being willing to put worth the tremendous effort that the job demands.<br />
<br />
During the blizzard, Ald. TenPas was out in the neighborhood checking on people.<br />
<br />
If Mrs. Link was concerned about the 6th ward she could have done the same.<br />
Did she?  I don't believe so.  I was outside for 7 hours straight and I never saw her.<br />
Has she checked on the business owners?  I spoke with 2 of them today, neither have ever met her.<br />
<br />
Mrs. Link has not visited me, she has not put a flyer in my door, she has not called my cell.  She does not appear concerned about getting my vote.  Perhaps she knows that I would ask real questions, hard questions.<br />
<br />
What did the WBA accomplish?  I want a concrete answer, not "It grew into the Chamber of Commerce".<br />
What are her plans for the North Ave corridor?  What has the C of C done for these businesses so far?<br />
How will she handle her multiple commitments?  What commitments will take priority?<br />
Who comes first?<br />
Why is our neighborhood littered with ugly AT&amp;T boxes?  Do the people of Lake Forest deserve better than us?<br />
How much time does she plan to spend out of this area?  I am certain it is more than the,<br />
 "2 weeks vacation", she has stated.  <br />
How does she plan to work with Mayor Sabonjian?  When she has spent 2 years calling him vicious names.<br />
<br />
When she is ready to provide solid answers, I am willing to listen.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[by Rebecca Steele<br />
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Green Investment Failure<br />
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Building âgreenâ is all the rage in Portland. Eco-roofs and solar panels have become routine, and now the goal is for ânet-zeroâ buildings that consume less energy or water than they produce.<br />
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However, while the idea is green, expect red. The City of Portlandâs last attempt to promote net-zero construction ended in a subsidized spending spree.<br />
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In 2005, the Green Investment Fund was established as a competitive grant program, awarding money for five years to spur green building. Enormous government subsidies were required for most grantees. DaVinci Arts Middle School, the only project actually to achieve net-zero energy, was realized because of $500,000 in community-donated services. The June Key Delta House, a proposed net-zero community center, received over $400,000 in PDC grants and loans. The Blanchet House of Hospitality, also hoping for net-zero energy, is enabled by a PDC $2 million grant and land swap. Other subsidized Green Fund projects failed miserably. Construction never began on the million-dollar Shizen condominiums or the Kenton Living Building, both net-zero energy contenders.<br />
<br />
<br />
Now the City wants to build the Oregon Sustainability Center, a $90 million high-rise near Portland State University. The proposed net-zero building would require $80 million in University bond revenue, $6 million from the City, and various other subsidies. Yet even then, the rents would be the most expensive of any office building in the state.<br />
<br />
Going âgreenâ takes green. The city should learn from the experience of the Green Investment Fund before it commits taxpayer money to a new âsustainabilityâ center.<br />
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Rebecca Steele is a research associate at Cascade Policy Institute, Oregonâs free market public policy research organization]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[by Rebecca Steele<br />
<br />
Green Investment Failure<br />
<br />
Download the PDF<br />
<br />
Building âgreenâ is all the rage in Portland. Eco-roofs and solar panels have become routine, and now the goal is for ânet-zeroâ buildings that consume less energy or water than they produce.<br />
<br />
However, while the idea is green, expect red. The City of Portlandâs last attempt to promote net-zero construction ended in a subsidized spending spree.<br />
<br />
In 2005, the Green Investment Fund was established as a competitive grant program, awarding money for five years to spur green building. Enormous government subsidies were required for most grantees. DaVinci Arts Middle School, the only project actually to achieve net-zero energy, was realized because of $500,000 in community-donated services. The June Key Delta House, a proposed net-zero community center, received over $400,000 in PDC grants and loans. The Blanchet House of Hospitality, also hoping for net-zero energy, is enabled by a PDC $2 million grant and land swap. Other subsidized Green Fund projects failed miserably. Construction never began on the million-dollar Shizen condominiums or the Kenton Living Building, both net-zero energy contenders.<br />
<br />
<br />
Now the City wants to build the Oregon Sustainability Center, a $90 million high-rise near Portland State University. The proposed net-zero building would require $80 million in University bond revenue, $6 million from the City, and various other subsidies. Yet even then, the rents would be the most expensive of any office building in the state.<br />
<br />
Going âgreenâ takes green. The city should learn from the experience of the Green Investment Fund before it commits taxpayer money to a new âsustainabilityâ center.<br />
<br />
Rebecca Steele is a research associate at Cascade Policy Institute, Oregonâs free market public policy research organization]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[YEA! I have a date with him TONIGHT.  :D  I can hardly wait. Who knows, maybe I'll go back to the Netherlands and be his Nanny ;)   I told my sister about it and she screamed, "You're going out with a stranger"?, oh, my  God". I told her I feel as if I know him, and if anyone who should be afraid it should be him :lol:  Anyhow, I'll give you all the details. (Unlike a lot of Posters who never give follow-ups on some of their subjects--they start it and  then leave you hanging .) This ole lady is going to have a ball---I feel it in my arthritic bones. :lol:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[YEA! I have a date with him TONIGHT.  :D  I can hardly wait. Who knows, maybe I'll go back to the Netherlands and be his Nanny ;)   I told my sister about it and she screamed, "You're going out with a stranger"?, oh, my  God". I told her I feel as if I know him, and if anyone who should be afraid it should be him :lol:  Anyhow, I'll give you all the details. (Unlike a lot of Posters who never give follow-ups on some of their subjects--they start it and  then leave you hanging .) This ole lady is going to have a ball---I feel it in my arthritic bones. :lol:]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote="gmg77"]I dont like gang graffiti either, but graffiti is an artform.  These kids just need to get better skills.<br />
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Graffiti is defined as unauthorized writing or drawing on public property. If it devalues something it cannot be art. Art is something which adds to the quality of life, it does not diminish it.  So what is it when done on private property?   Pure and simple... criminal damage to property.]]></description>
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[img]http://i45.tinypic.com/nyfk21.jpg[/img][/quote]<br />
Graffiti is defined as unauthorized writing or drawing on public property. If it devalues something it cannot be art. Art is something which adds to the quality of life, it does not diminish it.  So what is it when done on private property?   Pure and simple... criminal damage to property.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[[b]Top extremist right-wing Conspiracy Theories [/b]<br />
Excerpts from article written by David A. Grahm of NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE in the February 12, 2010 editon<br />
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Like recurring nightmares, conspiracy theories aren't necessarily gone for good just because they disappear for a while. They often come back, sometimes in slightly different forms. Their last golden age came during the middle of the Bush administration, which saw rumors from the political left about connections between the Bushes and the bin Ladens, insinuations about the military-industrial complex and the Patriot Actâactually, pretty much every plotline in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. Nothing breeds paranoid theories like political exile, which means that with Democrats back in the White House, it's the right's turn to take up the standard, a task it isn't shirking. And of course, several leftist theories remain in circulation. If you're having a hard time keeping all these paranoid points of view straight, here's a handy primer.<br />
<br />
*Barack Obama was not born in the United States. <br />
It's not clear where he must have been born instead: some say Indonesia; some say Kenya (initial suggestions that Hawaiian natives weren't citizens when he was born in Honolulu in 1961 were quickly dismissed). The point, so-called birthers say, is that he wasn't born in the good old US of A, hence isn't a natural-born citizen and therefore cannot legally be president. <br />
Proponents: Chief birther and Beverly Hills dentist and attorney Orly Taitz, WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah, Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.), former presidential and Senate candidate Alan Keyes, assorted tea partiers. <br />
Kernel of Truth? It's fully debunked. Forged Kenyan birth certificates have been exposed, andâdespite protestations to the contraryâObama's birth certificate has been certified by the state of Hawaii, and images have been shown on national television. And that's leaving aside plenty of circumstantial proof, like birth announcements in both major Hawaiian papers from August 1961.<br />
<br />
*Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax.<br />
 Proponents of the theory that the earth's temperature is risingâespecially Al Gore and the United Nationsâare trying to pull the wool over the world's eyes. Some believers say that warming is negligible in the scope of geological history, and many argue that even if warming is happening, it's not because of human activity. The goals of Gore and his ilk, they say, are to kill market competition, encourage socialist control, keep scientists' research coffers filled, and/or work to bring about a one-world government by giving the U.N. power to regulate the climate and by eroding national sovereignty. <br />
Proponents: Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), rogue Canadian climate scientist Tim Ball, journalist and British aristocrat Lord Christopher Monckton, Sarah Palin, National Review. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Deniers have long taken advantage of scientists' cautious statements, and "Climategate" breathed new life into the movement, but the science stands: warming is real, and it's caused by human actions.<br />
<br />
* Barack Obama is a secret Muslim. <br />
Drawing many of the same backers as the birther movement, this theory claims that Obama was indoctrinated into Islam while living in Indonesia during his childhood. They worry Obama is trying to undermine America's Judeo-Christian heritage, institute Islamic religious law, betray Israel to the Arabs, and perhaps even allow Al Qaeda to win the war on terror. <br />
Proponents: Anonymous chain e-mail, Libyan dictator Muammar Kaddafi, Swift Boater and propaganda wizard Jerome Corsi.  <br />
Kernel of Truth? Nope. Obama belonged to a Christian church in Chicago (for which he ironically also caught flack) and has a record of unambiguous support for Israel and hawkish policies on eradicating Al Qaeda's strongholds in Afghanistan and Pakistan. <br />
 <br />
* FEMA is establishing detention camps. <br />
The government has quietly made the Federal Emergency Management Agency a shadow government. Even now, FEMA has concentration camps ready across the country to intern American citizens. The idea attracted leftists during the Bush administration andâupdated for the Obama administrationânow has right-wing adherents. <br />
Proponents:++Glenn Beck (briefly), the Internet. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Too silly to discuss. <br />
 <br />
*  The Council on American-Islamic Relations is trying to infiltrate Capitol Hill and spread jihad. <br />
Author Dave Gaubatz alleges that the mainstream group is both connected to Islamist terrorists and international jihad and is working to infiltrate the American government by placing interns on Capitol Hill. <br />
Proponents: Dave Gaubatz, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.), Joseph Farah. <br />
Kernel of Truth? CAIR has tried to place interns on Capitol Hill, but as it points out, that's standard practice for advocacy groups of all types and allegiances. There's no proof of sinister motives or an effort to encourage international jihad. <br />
<br />
*  Obama wants to conscript Americans into a civilian defense corps. <br />
The group would be a brownshirtlike organization that would enforce order in the United States. <br />
Proponents:Glenn Beck, Watergate burglar and media personality G. Gordon Liddy, Ann Coulter. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Liberal press watchdog Media Matters says the theory stems from a speech Obama made in which he argued for the importance of the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps. That's a far cry from an American Gestapoâa claim for which there's no support. <br />
<br />
*  9/11 was an inside job. <br />
The truthers, holdovers from the Bush days, just won't go away. They argue that the physics of the World Trade Center collapse doesn't add up, and that the attacks were an excuse for the U.S. to launch wars abroad and enrich defense contractors. Either the government planned and executed them or it knew they were coming and turned a blind eye. <br />
Proponents:Alex Jones, retired religion professor David Ray Griffin, Reagan administration policy analyst Barbara Honegger, British journalist Robert Fisk. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Not even the staunchest mainstream George W. Bush bashers believe this one. Enough said. <br />
<br />
* The Omnibus One-World Government, Unified Currency, Dollar-Abolishing, Free TradeâAdvocating Theory of Everything: <br />
To make, first reheat old theories about elite organizations that supposedly control various world governments and would like to create a single, unitary, global regimeâthe Bilderberg Group, the Council of Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. Add a healthy portion of slightly newer but equally discredited theories about the Amero, a pan-North American currency, and the NAFTA superhighway, a planned thruway from Canada to Mexico said to be six football fields wide. Freshen with the economic-crisis-born idea that Ben Bernanke is trying to destroy the value of the dollar. Add a pinch of tea-party spice from former Alabama State Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, who believes there's a plan underfoot to have a United Nations guard at every American's door. The finished product should taste a little like this. <br />
Proponents: Alex Jones, finance blog Zero Hedge, WorldNetDaily, conservative news site NewsMax, Roy Moore. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Eh, sounds plausible to us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[[b]Top extremist right-wing Conspiracy Theories [/b]<br />
Excerpts from article written by David A. Grahm of NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE in the February 12, 2010 editon<br />
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Like recurring nightmares, conspiracy theories aren't necessarily gone for good just because they disappear for a while. They often come back, sometimes in slightly different forms. Their last golden age came during the middle of the Bush administration, which saw rumors from the political left about connections between the Bushes and the bin Ladens, insinuations about the military-industrial complex and the Patriot Actâactually, pretty much every plotline in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. Nothing breeds paranoid theories like political exile, which means that with Democrats back in the White House, it's the right's turn to take up the standard, a task it isn't shirking. And of course, several leftist theories remain in circulation. If you're having a hard time keeping all these paranoid points of view straight, here's a handy primer.<br />
<br />
*Barack Obama was not born in the United States. <br />
It's not clear where he must have been born instead: some say Indonesia; some say Kenya (initial suggestions that Hawaiian natives weren't citizens when he was born in Honolulu in 1961 were quickly dismissed). The point, so-called birthers say, is that he wasn't born in the good old US of A, hence isn't a natural-born citizen and therefore cannot legally be president. <br />
Proponents: Chief birther and Beverly Hills dentist and attorney Orly Taitz, WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah, Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.), former presidential and Senate candidate Alan Keyes, assorted tea partiers. <br />
Kernel of Truth? It's fully debunked. Forged Kenyan birth certificates have been exposed, andâdespite protestations to the contraryâObama's birth certificate has been certified by the state of Hawaii, and images have been shown on national television. And that's leaving aside plenty of circumstantial proof, like birth announcements in both major Hawaiian papers from August 1961.<br />
<br />
*Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax.<br />
 Proponents of the theory that the earth's temperature is risingâespecially Al Gore and the United Nationsâare trying to pull the wool over the world's eyes. Some believers say that warming is negligible in the scope of geological history, and many argue that even if warming is happening, it's not because of human activity. The goals of Gore and his ilk, they say, are to kill market competition, encourage socialist control, keep scientists' research coffers filled, and/or work to bring about a one-world government by giving the U.N. power to regulate the climate and by eroding national sovereignty. <br />
Proponents: Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), rogue Canadian climate scientist Tim Ball, journalist and British aristocrat Lord Christopher Monckton, Sarah Palin, National Review. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Deniers have long taken advantage of scientists' cautious statements, and "Climategate" breathed new life into the movement, but the science stands: warming is real, and it's caused by human actions.<br />
<br />
* Barack Obama is a secret Muslim. <br />
Drawing many of the same backers as the birther movement, this theory claims that Obama was indoctrinated into Islam while living in Indonesia during his childhood. They worry Obama is trying to undermine America's Judeo-Christian heritage, institute Islamic religious law, betray Israel to the Arabs, and perhaps even allow Al Qaeda to win the war on terror. <br />
Proponents: Anonymous chain e-mail, Libyan dictator Muammar Kaddafi, Swift Boater and propaganda wizard Jerome Corsi.  <br />
Kernel of Truth? Nope. Obama belonged to a Christian church in Chicago (for which he ironically also caught flack) and has a record of unambiguous support for Israel and hawkish policies on eradicating Al Qaeda's strongholds in Afghanistan and Pakistan. <br />
 <br />
* FEMA is establishing detention camps. <br />
The government has quietly made the Federal Emergency Management Agency a shadow government. Even now, FEMA has concentration camps ready across the country to intern American citizens. The idea attracted leftists during the Bush administration andâupdated for the Obama administrationânow has right-wing adherents. <br />
Proponents:++Glenn Beck (briefly), the Internet. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Too silly to discuss. <br />
 <br />
*  The Council on American-Islamic Relations is trying to infiltrate Capitol Hill and spread jihad. <br />
Author Dave Gaubatz alleges that the mainstream group is both connected to Islamist terrorists and international jihad and is working to infiltrate the American government by placing interns on Capitol Hill. <br />
Proponents: Dave Gaubatz, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.), Joseph Farah. <br />
Kernel of Truth? CAIR has tried to place interns on Capitol Hill, but as it points out, that's standard practice for advocacy groups of all types and allegiances. There's no proof of sinister motives or an effort to encourage international jihad. <br />
<br />
*  Obama wants to conscript Americans into a civilian defense corps. <br />
The group would be a brownshirtlike organization that would enforce order in the United States. <br />
Proponents:Glenn Beck, Watergate burglar and media personality G. Gordon Liddy, Ann Coulter. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Liberal press watchdog Media Matters says the theory stems from a speech Obama made in which he argued for the importance of the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps. That's a far cry from an American Gestapoâa claim for which there's no support. <br />
<br />
*  9/11 was an inside job. <br />
The truthers, holdovers from the Bush days, just won't go away. They argue that the physics of the World Trade Center collapse doesn't add up, and that the attacks were an excuse for the U.S. to launch wars abroad and enrich defense contractors. Either the government planned and executed them or it knew they were coming and turned a blind eye. <br />
Proponents:Alex Jones, retired religion professor David Ray Griffin, Reagan administration policy analyst Barbara Honegger, British journalist Robert Fisk. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Not even the staunchest mainstream George W. Bush bashers believe this one. Enough said. <br />
<br />
* The Omnibus One-World Government, Unified Currency, Dollar-Abolishing, Free TradeâAdvocating Theory of Everything: <br />
To make, first reheat old theories about elite organizations that supposedly control various world governments and would like to create a single, unitary, global regimeâthe Bilderberg Group, the Council of Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. Add a healthy portion of slightly newer but equally discredited theories about the Amero, a pan-North American currency, and the NAFTA superhighway, a planned thruway from Canada to Mexico said to be six football fields wide. Freshen with the economic-crisis-born idea that Ben Bernanke is trying to destroy the value of the dollar. Add a pinch of tea-party spice from former Alabama State Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, who believes there's a plan underfoot to have a United Nations guard at every American's door. The finished product should taste a little like this. <br />
Proponents: Alex Jones, finance blog Zero Hedge, WorldNetDaily, conservative news site NewsMax, Roy Moore. <br />
Kernel of Truth? Eh, sounds plausible to us.]]></content:encoded>
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