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A resource Based Economy and the Obsolescence of Money
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Warning! The following material contains unconventional ideas. Reading it may be harmful to conditioned thinking and closed minds.
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Or search "resourced based economy" on Youtube.
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There are just as many closed minds in the lunatic fringe
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That was one of the darkest, most disturbing trilogies I have ever viewed. These videos could have been the prequel to "Soylent Green." I think one could ascertain that Danno is a dyed-in-the-wool collectivist. Hold your own beliefs, Danno, just stay out of my wallet. Harold Beadling
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JazminH Wrote:There are just as many closed minds in the lunatic fringe
In some cases I agree with you but the people at the forefront of the zeitgeist movement are not closed minded at all. On the contrary, it is their tendency toward open minded thinking that led them to the concept in the first place.

The problem with the concept of applying the label "lunatic fringe" on anyone or any group is that the "lunatic fringe" of today sometimes becomes the genius of tomorrow. When you go back in history most of our highly revered innovators in science and technology were similarly ridiculed be their contemporaries. Old ideas are hard to shed. It's hard to let go of that which we are taught to cherish however empirically wrong or illogical it may be.

There will be a time in the future, as long as we don't annihilate each other first, when our current culture is considered, among other things, immature and lunatic. We live in a culture that glorifies violence and greed and then when someone kills for monetary gain we are shocked.

I'm just curious, what part of the concept that was presented would you consider lunacy and why?
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Harold Wrote:That was one of the darkest, most disturbing trilogies I have ever viewed. These videos could have been the prequel to "Soylent Green." I think one could ascertain that Danno is a dyed-in-the-wool collectivist. Hold your own beliefs, Danno, just stay out of my wallet. Harold Beadling

That is actually a very typical reaction to the Zeitgeist movement. It was mine too.
As a whole it is nowhere near anything like communism or collectivism. Here is some information that explains far better than I can.

Harold, I'm sure you will find the information in this FAQ interesting. Please see number 5.
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Here's a good 10 minute video on the subject at hand. If you desire to, please give your specific critic of it. What and why is is disturbing to you?
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Harold Wrote:That was one of the darkest, most disturbing trilogies I have ever viewed. These videos could have been the prequel to "Soylent Green." I think one could ascertain that Danno is a dyed-in-the-wool collectivist. Hold your own beliefs, Danno, just stay out of my wallet. Harold Beadling

Actually the plot of Soylent Green is more representative of the current breakdown trend of our debt/scarcity based system. Such a scenario could never happen in a resource based system.
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Dear Danno, It was inventors and industrialists who were told they were crazy by the status quo. These people are just a couple of "kooky" social engineers and nothing more. Harold Beadling
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Harold Wrote:Dear Danno, It was inventors and industrialists who were told they were crazy by the status quo. These people are just a couple of "kooky" social engineers and nothing more. Harold Beadling
Their proposals for a better society are based in science and technology.
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Dear Danno, It still comes down to this; Who would be the referee that decides which technologies to pursue; who would decide who would be a referee; would their decisions be based on sound, profitable business plans; government mandated business plans never end up serving anyone but those at the head of the table, rightly or wrongly.
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A musician has harnessed the power of two Nintendo Wiimotes to become a cyborg percussionist with the robo-band Jazari. His playing of one drum machine can evoke an automated response from another, so that he can go around the drum circle in a beautiful display of human-robot improvisation.

The man behind the machine, Patrick Flanagan, is a composer who cites music theory, music cognition, and machine learning as the three "chin-stroking disciplines" that influence his work. He created Jazari with a nod to Al-Jazari, a polymath of the Arab world in the 13th century who supposedly created the world's first robot band.
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