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Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 04-04-2009
Looks like a local activist saw this and is helping us find out more information. Thank you. She is going to try to find out more details on Monday. It is important for base security and jobs for American citizens and legal immigrants.
** OJO ** ICE "REDADA MASSIVA" postponed -plans to raid 100 immigrants at military facility ( GREAT LAKES NAVAL ??-next to WAUKEGAN)
?????? FYI - The "Gossip" on? Waukegan? Q is the MIGRA? Had plans? A
Raid of 100 immigrants working at a military base
in the Chicago area and is the only one of the GREAT LAKES NAVAL
? (North side of Chicago? and Waukegan, IL) this week but was "postponed to another date.
? This "plan" is "the same q? Article in? WASHINGTON POST
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????????????????????? Lunes, les confirmo mas detalles. [Monday, I'll confirm more details.}
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Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 04-10-2009
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April 9, 2009
Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority
By JULIA PRESTON
While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more difficult, President Obama plans to begin addressing the countryâs immigration system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.
Mr. Obama will frame the new effort â likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue â as âpolicy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,â said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.
Mr. Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May, administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of immigration groups, to begin discussing possible legislation for as early as this fall.
Some White House officials said that immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Mr. Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last yearâs campaign.
He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino voters turned out strongly for Mr. Obama in the election.
âHe intends to start the debate this year,â Ms. Muñoz said.
But with the economy seriously ailing, advocates on different sides of the debate said that immigration could become a polarizing issue for Mr. Obama in a year when he has many other major battles to fight.
Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant workers while so many Americans are out of jobs.
Democratic legislative aides said that opening a full-fledged debate this year on immigration, particularly with health care as a looming priority, could weigh down the presidentâs domestic agenda.
Debate is still under way among administration officials about the precise timing and strategy. For example, it is unclear who will take up the Obama initiative in Congress.
No serious legislative talks on the issue are expected until after some of Mr. Obamaâs other priorities have been debated, Congressional aides said.
Just last month, Mr. Obama openly recognized that immigration is a potential minefield.
"I know this is an emotional issue; I know itâs a controversial issue,â he told an audience at a town meeting on March 18 in Costa Mesa, Calif. âI know that the people get real riled up politically about this."
But, he said, immigrants who are long-time residents but lack legal status âhave to have some mechanism over time to get out of the shadows.â
The White House is calculating that public support for fixing the immigration system, which is widely acknowledged to be broken, will outweigh opposition from voters who argue that immigrants take jobs from Americans. A groundswell among voters opposed to legal status for illegal immigrants led to the defeat in 2007 of a bipartisan immigration bill that was strongly supported by President George W. Bush.
Administration officials said that Mr. Obamaâs plan would not add new workers to the American work force, but that it would recognize millions of illegal immigrants who have already been working here. Despite the deep recession, there is no evidence of any wholesale exodus of illegal immigrant workers, independent studies of census data show.
Opponents of legalization legislation were incredulous at the idea that Mr. Obama would take on immigration when economic pain for Americans is so widespread.
âIt just doesnât seem rational that any political leader would say, letâs give millions of foreign workers permanent access to U.S. jobs when we have millions of Americans looking for jobs,â said Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, a group that favors reduced immigration. Mr. Beck predicted that Mr. Obama would face âan explosionâ if he proceeded this year.
âItâs going to be, âYouâre letting them keep that job, when I could have that job,â â he said.
In broad outlines, officials said, the Obama administration favors legislation that would bring illegal immigrants into the legal system by recognizing that they violated the law, and imposing fines and other penalties to fit the offense. The legislation would seek to prevent future illegal immigration by strengthening border enforcement and cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants, while creating a national system for verifying the legal immigration status of new workers.
But administration officials emphasized that many details remained to be debated.
Opponents of a legalization effort said that if the Obama administration maintained the enforcement pressure initiated by Mr. Bush, the recession would force many illegal immigrants to return home. Dan Stein, the president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said it would be âpolitically disastrousâ for Mr. Obama to begin an immigration initiative at this time.
Anticipating opposition, Mr. Obama has sought to shift some of the political burden to advocates for immigrants, by encouraging them to build support among voters for when his proposal goes to Congress.
That is why Representative Luis V. Gutierrez, a Democrat from Mr. Obamaâs hometown, Chicago, has been on the road most weekends since last December, traveling far outside his district to meetings in Hispanic churches, hoping to generate something like a civil rights movement in favor of broad immigration legislation.
Mr. Gutierrez was in Philadelphia on Saturday at the Iglesia Internacional, a big Hispanic evangelical church in a former warehouse, the 17th meeting in a tour that has included cities as far flung as Providence, R.I.; Atlanta; Miami; and San Francisco. Greeted with cheers and amens by a full house of about 350 people, Mr. Gutierrez, shifting fluidly between Spanish and English, called for immigration policies to preserve family unity, the strategic theme of his campaign.
At each meeting, speakers from the community, mainly citizens, tell stories of loved ones who were deported or of delays and setbacks in the immigration system. Illegal immigrants have not been invited to speak.
Mr. Gutierrezâs meetings have all been held in churches, both evangelical and Roman Catholic, with clergy members from various denominations, including in several places Muslim imams. At one meeting in Chicago, Cardinal Francis George, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, officiated.
One speaker on Saturday, Jill Flores, said that her husband, Felix, an immigrant from Mexico who crossed the border illegally, had applied for legal status five years ago but had not been able to gain it even though she is an American citizen, as are their two children. Now, Ms. Flores said, she fears that her husband will have to leave for Mexico and will not be permitted to return for many years.
In an interview, Mr. Gutierrez rejected the idea that the timing is bad for an immigration debate. âThere is never a wrong time for us,â he said. âFamilies are being divided and destroyed, and they need help now.â
Jeff Zeleny contributed reporting.
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Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 04-10-2009
Standing Up To The Irrational: Can Obama Do It On Immigration? (strange Munoz utterings)
By Roy Beck, Thursday, April 9, 2009, 11:06 PM
âIt just doesnât seem rational," is how I was quoted in today's New York Times front page story about Pres. Obama supposedly being committed to moving a mass amnesty forward this year. So, for about the next 12 hours, I answered phone calls from print reporters and did radio shows across the country.
Despite the Times' very difficult financial position and the hatred it evokes from a sizable part of the public, you can quickly understand its continuing power over the nation's media when you are quoted in one of its controversial stories.
Every time it happens to me, my phone literally is ringing all day long from reporters, talk hosts, bloggers, researchers, foreign press, Hispanic press.
The New York Times still sets a lot of the agenda of the whole nation's news media.
What got things going today was Julia Preston's story that quoted a "senior administration official" under the headline:
Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority
By the end of the day, nearly every open-borders group in America had sent out mass emails declaring victory and calling on their members to call the White House to tell them not to listen to the protests from groups like NumbersUSA.
Part of their excitement, no doubt, was that one of their own was the "senior administration official" delivering the pro-amnesty news. Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House, was until recently a vice president of the National Council of La Raza.
Reporter Preston clearly understood that the chief problem with Munoz's pro-amnesty comments was how they played against the nation's terrible unemployment problem. She wrote this:
Opponents of legalization legislation were incredulous at the idea that Mr. Obama would take on immigration when economic pain for Americans is so widespread.
âIt just doesnât seem rational that any political leader would say, letâs give millions of foreign workers permanent access to U.S. jobs when we have millions of Americans looking for jobs,â said Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, a group that favors reduced immigration. Mr. Beck predicted that Mr. Obama would face âan explosionâ if he proceeded this year.
âItâs going to be, âYouâre letting them keep that job, when I could have that job,â â he said.
In all my interviews today, I talked about two numbers that illustrate starkly the irrationality -- and callousness -- of any move toward an amnesty this year.
* 6 million -- That is the estimate of illegal aliens who are holding down non-agricultural jobs in the U.S. Most of them are working in manufacturing, service and construction jobs that require no more than a high school education.
* Nearly 7 million -- That is the number of Americans with no more than a high school education who are looking for jobs (primarily in manufacturing, service and construction) but can't find one.
Cecilia Munoz is suggesting that her boss, Pres. Obama, thinks it is a good idea to tell those 7 million unemployed Americans that the jobs they want should continue to be occupied (permanently) by 6 million illegal foreign workers!
Let's hope that Munoz was the sacrificial lamb at the White House who drew the short trial balloon and had to float it to see if the American public is distracted enough not to notice what a crazy idea that would be.
But Cecilia wasn't the only one trying to sell nonsense. Reporter Preston quotes other Administration officials as saying that . . .
. . . Mr. Obamaâs plan would not add new workers to the American work force, but that it would recognize millions of illegal immigrants who have already been working here.
That is another trial balloon to see if the public believes that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. Every manufacturing, service and construction job an illegal alien is allowed to keep tends to mean that an American stays unemployed. Now that sounds like a good campaign theme for congressional re-elections.
Of course, maybe I was floating a trial balloon myself in talking about "an explosion" if Pres. Obama pushes an amnesty this year. I am depending on Americans to stand up for themselves and speak up. We certainly will give everybody a chance to do so through our Action Buffet system. If you haven't told the White House what you think of Cecilia Munoz's comments this week, please do so now.
Cecilia says Mr. Obama will speak to the nation about his amnesty plans in May and then will bring "immigration groups" and other experts together during the summer to hammer out a plan.
But the Times story details no promise of bringing the amnesty to a vote this year.
I think the White House is waiting to judge the public's reactions to the amnesty efforts before committing itself. If Americans sit on their hands every time a White House Official says something irrational about immigration, then the irrational may start to seem rational.
Looks like Mr. Obama may be depending on you to help him stand up to the irrational open-borders groups.
ROY BECK is Founder & CEO of NumbersUSA
Lee3759 of TX
Fri, 04/10/2009 - 8:17am
Re: Standing Up To The Irrational: Can Obama Do It On Immigrati
I heard this yesterday, April 9, on TV at 5AM CDT. The White House "Comments" phone line opens at 8AM CDT. I began dialing five minutes early and it still took me 40 minutes to get through. This is the first time ever that I could not get through on the first try. I assume this was a good sign since by 11AM I saw on TV that the Pres. had already started backing off and practically admitted that this was a trial balloon.
Additionally, I e-mailed my Senators, Congressman, and all the TV commentators I listen to. Basically what I said was that this President has already committed us to generations of prosperity-killing debt; he cannot seriously expect taxpayers to assume the burden of paying for services -- most likely including health care -- for 12 million or more illegals while our own people need the jobs those illegals do or would occupy. I specifically mentioned that I wanted worksite enforcement resumed, all existing immigration laws enforced (especially during the Census), E-Verify required, no DREAM Act and no amnesty.
Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 04-23-2009
If you own a business, if you know someone that owns a business or if you shop in a business let them know about this ruling in Illinois. Remind them how many Americans are out of work....
April 22, 2009
Court Strikes Down Illinois Ban on E-Verify
A federal court sitting in Illinois has stricken down a controversial 2007 Illinois law, dubbed âThe Right to Privacy in the Workplace Act,â which barred the stateâs employers from using the federal E-Verify system to determine whether job applicants were legally allowed to work in the country.
Historically, over 900 Illinois employers have used E-Verify, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The Illinois bill recognized E-Verifyâs well-publicized problems related to the speed and accuracy of its results and prohibited employers from using it until it became more accurate and more efficient, and yielded correct results 99 percent of the time.
DHS challenged the law in federal court, arguing that it was unconstitutional because it frustrated the federal governmentâs intention in developing the E-Verify system for employersâ use. The filing of the suit delayed the lawâs January 1, 2008, effective date pending the results of the litigation.
The U.S. District Court for the Central District of Illinois agreed with DHS, finding the state law invalid under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution because it thwarted Congressâs intention that employers use the system. The case is United States v. Illinois, U.S. District Court for the Central District of Illinois, No. 07-3261 (3/12/09).
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Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 05-01-2009
Being a victim of ID theft if no fun. I know. Are our police going after this issue?
Addison man working in Elgin charged with ID theft
By Lenore T. Adkins | Daily Herald Staff
Published: 4/30/2009 2:12 PM | Updated: 4/30/2009 4:40 PM
A Mexican-born Addison man used a stolen Social Security number to live his version of the American dream, making more than $80,000 in nearly three years, police said.
Felix Aguilar, 43, of the first block of West Diversey Avenue, was arrested Wednesday and charged with identity theft, a Class 2 felony that carries up to seven years in prison upon conviction, authorities said.
Kane County Judge John Noverini on Thursday morning set Aguilar's bond at 10 percent of $50,000.
According to court documents, Aguilar paid $400 for someone else's Social Security number, which he bought at least four years ago from a man in Elk Grove Village.
In 2005, Aguilar applied for a job at John B. Sanfilippo & Sons nut factory in Elgin, using the Social Security number and provided name as if they were his own, documents said.
Aguilar was hired there as a factory worker in May 2006 and held the job through April 17, 2009, making a total of $80,717, documents said.
The investigation began Feb. 16 in Reno, Nev., where the victim resides, Elgin Deputy Police Chief Cecil Smith said. Elgin assisted with the Illinois portion of the probe, Smith said.
Aguilar was released from the Elgin lockup Thursday after posting bond. He is due back in court May 12 at the Kane County Judicial Center.
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Re: Immigration - Penguin40 - 05-01-2009
Whatever money they make off of someone else's name/SS #, should be AT LEAST what they have to pay their victim. :evil:
Re: Immigration - Danno - 05-01-2009
Bond was too low. He'll never be seen again.
Re: Immigration - Penguin40 - 05-05-2009
fedupinwaukegan Wrote:If you own a business, if you know someone that owns a business or if you shop in a business let them know about this ruling in Illinois. Remind them how many Americans are out of work....
Hi Fedup! There's a factory down the road from the Emission Testing Station that just laid off upwards of 100 people, most of them allegedly illegal. Just thought you'd like to know....
Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 05-14-2009
Penguin40 Wrote:fedupinwaukegan Wrote:If you own a business, if you know someone that owns a business or if you shop in a business let them know about this ruling in Illinois. Remind them how many Americans are out of work....
Hi Fedup! There's a factory down the road from the Emission Testing Station that just laid off upwards of 100 people, most of them allegedly illegal. Just thought you'd like to know....
Sad sign of the times... Have you heard if they used E-verify or it was just straight lay offs because business was off?
I wonder if Mayor Sabonjian is interested in promoting E-verify with our area busniesses?
Re: Immigration - fedupinwaukegan - 05-14-2009
This is a breaking story.
2 adult students taken into custody at White House
AP
2 hrs 1 min ago
WASHINGTON â Two people facing deportation from the United States have been taken into custody at the White House gate. They had arrived for a tour of the executive mansion.
The pair was part of an adult education program, and a routine background check showed they had an outstanding immigration order against them.
White House spokesman Nick Shapiro says they were taken into custody Thursday morning before they entered the compound.
All White House visitors are required to undergo a U.S. Secret Service background check. Shapiro says agents discovered the problems and informed immigration officials, according to protocol.
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