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The upper echelon of the monetary system do wield a lot of power and control in the world. In general I believe there is a common effort toward the same goal. It is not an orchestrated conspiracy but since the ultimate goal is the same it seems like it is a collaborative effort which it is not. with that said, I would not be surprised that there is occasionally some collaboration. I have little doubt that the true power in the world is in the hands of those few at the top who control the money. I think we, the general populace, have no idea how things really work in terms of world power and manipulation. I think the world works in far different ways than what we are led to believe. Consider this. We only know what is fed to us. Can you trust those who are doing the feeding?

Danno Wrote:The upper echelon of the monetary system do wield a lot of power and control in the world. In general I believe there is a common effort toward the same goal. It is not an orchestrated conspiracy but since the ultimate goal is the same it seems like it is a collaborative effort which it is not. with that said, I would not be surprised that there is occasionally some collaboration. I have little doubt that the true power in the world is in the hands of those few at the top who control the money. I think we, the general populace, have no idea how things really work in terms of world power and manipulation. I think the world works in far different ways than what we are led to believe. Consider this. We only know what is fed to us. Can you trust those who are doing the feeding?

Hey Danno...

Thanks for your feedback about "The New World Order." What I have found so amazing in my researchi is how complex and expansive so much of it is, so many various players, organizations and projects I had never heard of prior to this. I had never heard of:

The Bilderberg Group -- about 130 of the world's most elite players from all disciplines met again this year at the Hotel Dulce in Stiges, Spain in early June. Every year their exclusive, no press or public invited meetings occur in different posh resorts throughout the world.

Bohemian Grove -- every July for two weeks, exclusively males attend this 2700 fenced off, private redwood forest retreat with over 100 swank lodges in it. Here attendees walk around in the buff stoned drunk much of the time, and at night they gather before a huge statue of an owl named Molech (an ancient Canaanite owl-god deity associated with the horrific burning of live children as a sacrifice, condemned as a death cult far back as The Old Testament in the Book of Leviticus, the Book of 1 Kings, the Book of 2 Kings, the Book of Jeremiah and the Book of Amos).

While standing and knneling before the owl-god pagan diety MOLECH at Bohemian Grove, those hundreds of extremely powerful, well-heeled members and invited "privileged" attendees then proceed tooffer a mock human infant "sacrifice" to be burned while they stand in deafening slience and wave their flaming torches to then wildy sceam "HAIL MOLECH" in an occult, death cult ceremony termed "The Cremation of Care."

It is said that J. Robert Opppeheimer developed the theories that led to the Mahatten Project in 1942 while at this retreat, which later resulted in the building of the first Atom Bomb (must have been in their more sober states of mind). Some of the poliical notables who have attended Bohemian Grove in the past include Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, both George H. W. Bush, Geore W. Bush, George Schultz, Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Kissenger, Newt Gingrich, David Gergen, former UK Prime MinisterTony Blair and Prince Charles. Must be quite a site to see!!!

Apparently Richard Nixon did not like the Bohemian Grove when he occassionally attended as recorded here:
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Bill Clinton is familiar with Bohemian Grove, as evidenced here:
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Presidential Advisor David Gergen admits to attending, but declines any further comment:
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I had NEVER heard of USA's military, top-secret The H.A.A.R.P. project up in the wilderness of Alaska, deploying huge fields of electro-magnetic energy beamed up into the skies. Really, what' IS this all about ??:
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I never heard of The Georgia Guidestones, the Svalbard Global Seed Bank, had no idea of the long history of The Federal Reserve Bank of the United States ("The Fed") and the Rothchild's involvment with it going back to George Washington to Lincoln to JFK.

And how about that flouridated water is a concern to many ?? Never heard that one before, eiher. (Upon reading of this, I called the Waukegan Water Works and learned that Waukegan pumps flouride into our drinking water 24/7, too. I was told that by a staffer there that Illinois State Law requires flouride in all driking water in this state). All about dental health, this flouridation. OK, but what's this flouridation really accomplishing? Despite drinking flouridated water and good dental hygiene, persons continue to develop dental decay. Go figure!

In my informed opinion, a good share of the NWO material above and out there generally is based upon half-truths, distortions and/or pure political vindictivenesss, so it cannot be seriously considered. Nevertheless, those persons/organizations/projects cited above in my initial post do all exist, so examining them more fully is both informative and legitmate.

Certainly, Danno, I agree that there are lots of decisions that are made "at the top" involving political power and big money, and some of it is by happenstance but there is certainly a lot of business done by design, too. So what else is new?

This is what is new, in part. Our technology today gives those in powerful positions so much rapid access to information, and makes monitoring through electronic means so much more easier that such powerful tools in the hands of powerful persons who are all about retaining and consolidating their power extremely unsettling.

And Danno, you end by remarking "we only know what is fed to us...can you trust those who are doing the feeding?" Hmmmm, I am not even certain we really know WHAT we are being fed! Ever look at all the "additives" in many routine items we eat every day, like a slice of bread, a glass of Pepsi, a frozen pizza, a can of soup, a dish of ice cream??

Even "fresh" fruit and vegetables to the eye look fine, but what has been sprayed onto the fruit and produce BEFORE it even reaches the grocery store or farmer's market in regard to pesticides? What is in the fertilzer from which all fruit and produce is then harvested? What is fed to the cows and chickens that we then later on ingest ourselves? PLENTY of "harmless chemicals to keep the food fresh" that may be keepng it fresh, but what happens once inside of US??

Definitely some "food for thought" at this NWO buffet. And a "second helping" is not at all desirous or pleasing to the palate. One serving is already one serving too much.

-- WT Reader

Id love to read all that but the font is too tiny

JazminH Wrote:Id love to read all that but the font is too tiny

Hey Jazmin...

On posts equal to this post or longer, I have concluded that the larger text takes much to much band-width space for this graciously provided free Forum website. However, to make this post and the my above posts under this NWO heading more readable, I place the font in bold typeface and introduce in bold red font the numerous topical NWO YouTube vids to make them more findable (see my above initial post).

FYI, the YouTube vids provided above are both very watchable and communicate the aroma/flavor of what each complex NWO topic concerns. This saves time from verbally explaining the numerous topics in further detail, as well saves time in reading about each NWO topic and saves physical band-width space, too. Further, this "buffet choice" of topics allows the reader to quickly "pick and choose" which NWO topic(s) to sample and taste.

As you state you'd "love to read all that but the font is too tiny" .. just watching the YouTube vids by topic would minimize reading any small font. The written material is my personal commentary provided for further information and/or on-point discussion/debate if the reader decides to go there.

If you choose to read the entire text and still have difficulty with the smaller font, a suggestion...
"Cut and paste" what I have written with the YouTube vids included to your own Microsoft Word/whatever computer program then enlarge the text for better reading.

Regards,
-- WT Reader

Perhaps your visually-challenged friends should look into the adaptive options available in most modern browsers and operating systems, rather than relying on individual posters manually changing font display size in individual posts. In Firefox, a simple ctrl-+ will enlarge everything in the browser window. Much quicker and easier than hoping everyone else on the internet will take the time to adjust their posts.

:? Oh, Lordy---its all too much for me. I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what you kids are talking about---but don't stop.

Blackdiamond Wrote::? Oh, Lordy---its all too much for me. I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what you kids are talking about---but don't stop.

If you need computer help, just drop me a line - I'll come by and help you.

kellyann1293 Wrote:Perhaps your visually-challenged friends should look into the adaptive options available in most modern browsers and operating systems, rather than relying on individual posters manually changing font display size in individual posts. In Firefox, a simple ctrl-+ will enlarge everything in the browser window. Much quicker and easier than hoping everyone else on the internet will take the time to adjust their posts.

Hey Kelly..

Thnx !! Great advice, I never knew about that feature before, either! I just did what you suggest, and it works. VOILA !

-- WT Reader

Blackdiamond Wrote::? Oh, Lordy---its all too much for me. I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what you kids are talking about---but don't stop.

Hey BD ...

I appreciate your honesty! I agree...hard to figure this out !!

Have you ever heard the term used in the recent past... "The New World Order"?

It is a political perspective which yes, is based upon a vast conspiracy theory. It sees our country and many countries around the world as increasingly being controlled by an elite group of individuals set upon their own personal power and their own personal enrichment. How they are achieving these ends are by mostly secret meetings and secret rituals to bind themselves closer, to consolidate their power, to advance their cause.

Many believe that the world-wide economic crises we are seeing is not by chance, but by design. As these powered, monied elites consolidate more, the more resources go to them and the less there is for the rest of us. Big Banks, Powerful Leaders (from all over the world), Big Military-Industrial Complex, Big Media, Big Academicians, Big Medicine, Big Info services (like Google and Verizon) are all aligning together to enrich themselves, to be the new "haves" while all the rest of us will increasingly become the impoverished "have nots."

It is a chilling perspective, but when you look around at all the big problems in the world today, such as our continuing tanking ecomony, that isn't such a fuzzy wuzzy, heart-warming picture, either! It's very chillng!

The videos I list in my initial post above try to explain this overall alleged scheme in the first part by the players, the persons alleged to be involved in this move towards world-wide consolidated power. Such as the centuries old banking family, The Rothchilds (the richest family on this planet for literally centuries and centuries going back into the Renaissance and well-established by the time of George Washington).

Then there is this group of about 130 world elites who meet every year and have since 1954 called "The Bilderbergers." They meet every yr in posh private retreats, this yr meeting at the swank Hotel Dulce in Sitges, Spain. Major American corporate figures, banking figures, military figures, media figures and political figures attend as well as their counterparts from around the entire globe. All in secret, no reporters allowed, no public allowed, PRIVATE. It is alleged at these secret meetings that world policy is set, as where to declare wars, how to manipulate world-wide currencies, how much to charge for gasoline, much of all of this GLOBALLY decided here and during the yr by this group. They call themselves "The Bildergerbers" because they first met at The Hotel Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, The Netherlands, in 1954.

Then there are other organizations with exclusive membership where the world-wide high and mighty allegedly come together to meet and plan how to make the world work better for only THEM. The Trilateral Commission, The Council on Foreign Relations are such alleged organizations. None of these are govermental agencies, BD. THEY ARE ALL EXCLUSIVELY PRIVATE...like a COUNTRY CLUB IS.

Then there are other secret organizations/societies they are alleged to also be a part of this. The Free Masons, The Illuminati (very secret and some question their existence at all) and others not so secret such as The United Nations (but what does that say..."UNITED NATIONS"?? as in ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT??..A "NEW WORLD ORDER"?) I am not saying I buy into ALL of this, just presenting here the perspective and how it is seen, BD.

THEN there are the alleged MAJOR PLAYERS in all of this, some call them the "HIGH PRIESTS" .... and those are the names I list in my initial post. Allegedly such as Multi-Billionaire Oilman DAVID ROCKEFELLER, Computer guru BILL GATES, long-time powerful diplomat and former USA Secretary of State HENRY KISSINGER (yes, he is STILL around and in the thick of things), the former top security advisor to President Jimmy Carter named Zbigniew Brzezinksi (he is also a writer, a scholar, a lecturer and is alleged to be one of the top hidden insiders advising President Barack Obama about the Mideast right now).

Then there is former President George Herbert Walker Bush (who on January 16, 1991 specifically talked about establishing beyond all doubt a "NEW WORLD ORDER")...take a look at this vid, BD...and hear it first-hand:

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Then there are those who allege that President Obama is now into the "New World Order" scheme, too...and some even say he is a a mere puppet of the global elites and powerful monied interests to "mask" what they are really up to BEHIND the scenes. These are examples of what some say are evidences from President Obama that he is on board and all steam ahead for "The New World Order."

By the way, I find comparisons of President Obama to Adolf Hitler and then to The Devil outrageously disgusting, totally repulsive and absolutely ridiculous. FACT is that some REALLY DO see him this way, and I am here to look at this ENTIRE "New World Order" perspective, even the parts that I do not agree with and that I do not like. It is important to hear the WHOLE STORY, like it or not, that's the way I look at it.

OK then, here is President Obama and what some are alleging about him:

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ALL RIGHT....that is enough for now, BD.

On my initial post above, I next list many of the weird alleged projects and entities of "The New World Order" which the vids present at great length. I suggest first looking at the vids in the first section of my initial post (each which I have referred to here, along with relisting some) and then moving to the second part later.

I hope this helps explain what this political perspective is more about; parts of it make more sense to me than other parts of it, and some parts of this perspective are just too far out to make any sense at all (which I find repulsive and ridiculous, as stated).

The parts that make sense are those that deal with the consolidation of power by world elites ginned up by huge reserves of billions of dolllars/euros ... combined with sophisticated new technology and the CONTROL of such technology for their OWN goals and agendas. This I find very, very troubling.

-- WT Reader